YES, WE KNOW THERE ARE PORN ADS. WE'RE WORKING ON IT.

[Ms Dynomite]

This thread closed to avoid confusion. The no-nudity rule was only temporary due to specific direction from Ning. The site has been reverted to its previous rule allowing nudity but not porn. Please see the announcement thread here

Please see the home page announcement and the 2 site-wide announcements that were emailed to every member yesterday and today regarding this issue. Myself and the newly appointed Admins are working as fast as we can to resolve the issue. Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do about it meanwhile, we're stuck with it for at least a few more days. Trust me, I'm not happy about this either and realize it's a terrible inconvenience for members. Thanks for your patience.


If you're angry about this you can thank the few careless and clueless members who decided to directly violate site rules and post porn for creating this problem. You can also thank Ning's current TOUs which now don't even allow for nudity in art, such as sculpture or sketches. And you can thank those members who reported problems directly to Ning (still baffled as to why), but didn't bother to also let their Network Creator (me) know about the problem so that she might resolve it directly and quickly.

[Oba Ozai]

... there goes the neighborhood

[Chrysanthe]

yep

[khrysso heart lefey]

a) I don't think that every social network service needs to provide a place for pornography. Not all of life is about sex, and not all of life online need be about sex.

b) I was against the censorship disaster on Tribe that was instituted in December 2005 and that drove so many people away from it. I didn't like the fact that, as a tribe moderator, I got hit with censorship in a couple of tribes I was responsible for.

c) Not all that is restrictive is censorship. Some limitations are about editorial vision and accessibility. So, Ms. D., I affirm your sovereignty as Network Creator, trusting that you will wield a consistent hand upholding your editorial vision rather than a censorial hand silencing members arbitrarily.

d) Temperance has not stopped being an admirable character quality. A little self-restraint is not likely to kill anybody.

e) Publishing, distributing, and consuming porn are not inalienable human rights. Censorship is a government function. Compelling compliance with a policy of not fostering an environment for pornographic ads in a private group is not a government action: it's a community action, in a community that is not an absolute democracy.

f) I myself don't mind porn ads, but I am a Kinsey-6 homosexual man and am offended by pornographic images of women. If they were images of men I personally would have no complaints about them, but these images on my screen have a heavy "ick" factor for me. If I can't choose the sex of the people in the ads, I am content to do without and lose those advertisers. Too bad Ning is making the choice black-and-white, because if they allowed some kind of filtering, they wouldn't necessarily have to lose a market.

[Chrysanthe]

"e) Publishing, distributing, and consuming porn are not inalienable human rights. Censorship is a government function. Compelling compliance with a policy of not fostering an environment for pornographic ads in a private group is not a government action: it's a community action, in a community that is not an absolute democracy."

not all nudity in art is even remotely porn--this is indeed a prudish and very sad ruling by ning.

[Chrysanthe]

i am disgusted.

[stevo]

after you're done censoring images, you'll have to go after the text on the breastfeeding, childbirth, birth control and circumcision threads.

[stevo]

simple home remedy
Adblock + Firefox

[Ms Dynomite]

"after you're done censoring images, you'll have to go after the text on the breastfeeding, childbirth, birth control and circumcision threads."

I've already had to remove images of breastfeeding. no, I'm not kidding.

I've requested clarification from Ning regarding art and gotten nowhere. I'm still pushing it, but they're not forthcoming with information nor open to dialog thus far. They don't even seem to realize the absurdity of flooding this site -- which has actively been trying to avoid porn content -- with porn ads on every page.

[Chrysanthe]

" You can also thank Ning's current TOUs which now don't even allow for nudity in art, such as sculpture or sketches."

If one creates a private (invite only) network, can one bypass the adult tag but still have art images containing nudity?

[stevo]

they draw a puritan line down the middle, and then
peddle porn to the evil breast feeeders and art lovers.

[Ms Dynomite]

"If one creates a private (invite only) network, can one bypass the adult tag but still have art images containing nudity?"

when I said no nudity, I meant no nudity. period. nowhere. of any kind. not illustrations. not photographs. not sculptures. not public, not private. not in messages, not in groups, not in the forum. no nudity. period.

I think this is ridiculous, but I'm having to comply with it because basically the network is being held hostage under porn ads right now. until we remove every single shred of nudity and anything that could possibly be construed as adult content we are bombarded with porn animations and ads.

[Chrysanthe]

I was theorizing the creation of a seperate private network (not another group) and whether anyone knows if that private nature would therefore escape the nature of the adult content TOU since the network would be invite only and not viewable except by members.